Guest51810 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Mines will look like a little grumpy alien. I put my baby pic up on here and got told me and my cousin looked like monkeys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovingtoTasmania Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Mines will look like a little grumpy alien. I put my baby pic up on here and got told me and my cousin looked like monkeys! By ugly jealous people. I'm sure you were beautiful and bonny x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Don't all newborn babies look like Winston Churchill ? No mine looked like Kim Jong Un! They got much better looking after a few days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovingtoTasmania Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 No mine looked like Kim Jong Un! They got much better looking after a few days! No way! You shush now! Bet they were gorgeous :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 PHIL Mitchell springs to mind or failing that Harry Hill :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well my mums on parleys side about the age thing. I ended up having a heated discussion with her :laugh: fair enough it can be harder to conceive but there's no way women should feel pressured into having them when not ready just incase they seem a few years too old. As long as they are ready and have the energy etc that's the main thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Sensible lady, your Mum Stacey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Sensible lady, your Mum Stacey. Yeah but she also admitted a while ago that she got married etc too young. I'll still with my 30 - 32 plan. Or I might not even have them at all. That would soon shut her up lol. It's not fair - men can be in their 40's and it doesn't really matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidensarah Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I prefer the baby clothes to the actual babies :laugh: I really like toddlers though. They are funny. My cousins little boy is like a comedian at the moment, he'll be even better in a year or two My nearly 4 year old boy has started answering back! All the time. Driving me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 My nearly 4 year old boy has started answering back! All the time. Driving me nuts. Haha I can imagine! They are funny.. Well when they are somebody else's lol. My cousins boy is 2 now and he's started being stroppy and saying "I need" instead of "I want". I didn't even realise they could talk that much at that age :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well my mums on parleys side about the age thing. I ended up having a heated discussion with her :laugh: fair enough it can be harder to conceive but there's no way women should feel pressured into having them when not ready just incase they seem a few years too old. As long as they are ready and have the energy etc that's the main thing Might be an age (shhhh!) thing! Those views are quite old fashioned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 My nearly 4 year old boy has started answering back! All the time. Driving me nuts. I take that as a sign of inteligence at that age. You can't just tell them what to do, you have to have a reason for the request :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Might be an age (shhhh!) thing! Those views are quite old fashioned! í*½í¸ Oh definitely. My gran mentions my age quite often too. I had a boss that told me I basically couldn't have travel AND uni because I would be too old to start thinking about having kids and having a career. I thought that was harsh and old fashioned lol. Never mind.. I'll have them if I decide I even want to and once I'm ready and can afford them. I could barely afford a puppy at the moment never mind a baby :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The point is though, modern women put it off prioritising their careers and other things, then hit their mid 30's and think I better start my family now. And sadly many start to have fertility problems or marriages have broken up etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Actually i think many people today think that the definition of poverty is not being able to afford Sky Sports or the latest smartphones lol. The 50 inch LCD TV is a given. Too much of a materialistic world these days, its just a real shame that people think they are poor because they have not got a smart phone A loving couple both want a child and both want smart phones and a 50inch TV, they say they cant afford a child!!! so buy the phones and tv instead, 3 years down the line the tv is stuffed, 1 year down the line the phones are out dated and need renewing, does this means they are poor again? a child would still be there growing and improving after bringing so much joy into your life and still many more years to go, actually in most cases outliving you.........Gee I know which is the best value for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Too much of a materialistic world these days, its just a real shame that people think they are poor because they have not got a smart phone A loving couple both want a child and both want smart phones and a 50inch TV, they say they cant afford a child!!! so buy the phones and tv instead, 3 years down the line the tv is stuffed, 1 year down the line the phones are out dated and need renewing, does this means they are poor again? a child would still be there growing and improving after bringing so much joy into your life and still many more years to go, actually in most cases outliving you.........Gee I know which is the best value for money The 'poor' people HAVE a 50" TV and latest iPhone AND have about 6 kids! But that's a whole other debate! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I fondly remember when Linda was pregnant, I used to stare at her bulging belly and say "she's having my baby" ...............even now Linda stares at my body....and thinks the same:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) The point is though, modern women put it off prioritising their careers and other things, then hit their mid 30's and think I better start my family now.And sadly many start to have fertility problems or marriages have broken up etc. Well the birth rate is going up ! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-birth-rate-leaps-by-18-in-a-decade-9107483.html "Dorman also believes women having babies later has contributed to the rise : “We’ve seen over the last ten to 15 years gradual increases in older mothers. More and more mothers are having children at an older age. We’re seeing the same number of births for women aged 25-35 but we’re also seeing women having an additional birth later. These top up rather than replace younger births.” Edited February 8, 2015 by Bound4Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The suggestion that a mother would abandon her baby if it wasn't cute enough is very low imo. I cannot imagine any mother doing that. But obviously some of the mums agree and have given it a like. Which just goes to show you didn't even bother to read my post properly. I did not make that statement and that's not what they were liking. I'll try again. There are TWO kinds of maternal instinct you're referring to: first there's the love of babies and the desire for one of your own, and then there's loving the child once it arrives. The two are not connected and it's possible to feel one without the other. The vast majority of animals and birds express no interest in, and will not care for, other individual's babies - so the "love of babies" maternal instinct is a HUMAN thing. And we don't even know how widespread it is in humans, because it's just not allowed in our society for women NOT to coo over a baby. As you can see on these forums, though, it's not universal by any means. Then there's the love for the child once it arrives. Again, it is expected in our society that all women fall madly in love with their babies. It's true for many and it's great for those it happens to, but it does NOT happen to everyone - and it's really irresponsible of some people to pressure women who don't feel the desire to have kids with cliches like "oh you must have children, it completes you, you'll never regret it, blah blah blah...". Because some women never do get that madly in love feeling, and without it, kids are tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 He obviously didn't read the link I put up either. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Marisa, I was commenting on Naomi's comment not yours. Naomi believes more women would abandon their babies if they weren't cute. btw female elephants do look after the herds babies. Blossom, Did you read the links I provided ? I cannot assume yours is correct when so many others I've read say the exact opposite. That a women's fertility peaks in her early 20's. I can provide many more links. Can you beyond this one BBC magazine article. I don't believe it as so many others say the exact opposite. Edited February 8, 2015 by parleycross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 According to IVF Australia.Once you turn 36, your chance of conceiving naturally is halved compared to your chance at 20 years of age. At the age of 41, this chance falls to just 4%. That’s the success rate for couples per month of trying when the female is aged 41 to 42. http://ivf.com.au/about-fertility/female-reproductive-system/effect-of-age-on-fertility#risk-of-miscarriage-increases-with-age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Marisa, I was commenting on Naomi's comment not yours. Naomi believes more women would abandon their babies if they weren't cute. btw female elephants do look after the herds babies. Blossom, Did you read the links I provided ? I cannot assume yours is correct when so many others I've read say the exact opposite. That a women's fertility peaks in her early 20's. I can provide many more links. Can you beyond this one BBC magazine article. I don't believe it as so many others say the exact opposite. I read Naomi's comment as tongue in cheek, though I do think "cuteness" is a protective thing. Yes there are herd animals who look after other babies (e.g. elephants, meerkats) but it's not a common thing in the animal world: for instance hippos will kill other's offspring to prevent competition, and it's very hard to get some species to suckle another's young if the mother dies. As for fertility and safety - actually I agree the best time to have babies is in your twenties, but I certainly wouldn't tell any young woman she "should" have babies at that age. She should have one if she wants one - and if she wants one, she won't be asking whether to go ahead, or whether she can afford it - the drive will be too strong for that. Edited February 8, 2015 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Marisa, I take your point about maternal instinct only being demonstrated after birth not before. Apologies if I offended you, I didn't mean to. It makes me think some people who have never been clucky and so not had kids, may have missed out as their attitude may have totally changed after having a baby of their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Marisa, I take your point about maternal instinct only being demonstrated after birth not before.Apologies if I offended you, I didn't mean to. It makes me think some people who have never been clucky and so not had kids, may have missed out as their attitude may have totally changed after having a baby of their own. But then they'll never know will they, so they won't feel they've missed out. It's only you worrying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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