Jupiter Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I don't know the exact numbers but let's assume there are 10,000 applicants in a year for the 190 visa. There is room for only 2,000 applicants so they are given the 190 visa. Now, 8,000 applicants remain but the following year, there are another 10,000 new applicants. Now, there is a backlog of 18,000 applicants. The number should only be increasing as years go by because there is a large supply but not enough demand. How is this issue handled by Home Affairs? Is there a lottery system? In that case, does the chance of winning get slimmer with every passing year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsemad1976 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 You also need to factor in people have multiple EOI's, some expire due to their longevity, individuals points lose/gain over the two years they are in the system so the numbers are fluid. No lottery system these are skilled visas - highest ranked points (but not necessarily highly skilled imo) get plucked from the pool of individuals and invited to apply. Just because someone is highly educated doesn't necessarily make them highly skilled. Likewise you can be highly skilled without being highly academically educated. For skilled visas like this my understanding is the department require both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Check the migration Act Section 39. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Quote from Section 39: Cap and cease Under section 39 of the Act, the Minister has the power to set the maximum number of visas of a class that may be granted in a particular financial year. The cap and cease provision means that when a cap has been reached for a particular visa class, work on all applications which have not been processed to decision stops, the files are closed and application fees are refunded. These applications are treated as if they have not been submitted." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 22/09/2018 at 22:29, Jupiter said: I don't know the exact numbers but let's assume there are 10,000 applicants in a year for the 190 visa. There is room for only 2,000 applicants so they are given the 190 visa. Now, 8,000 applicants remain but the following year, there are another 10,000 new applicants. Now, there is a backlog of 18,000 applicants. The number should only be increasing as years go by because there is a large supply but not enough demand. How is this issue handled by Home Affairs? Is there a lottery system? In that case, does the chance of winning get slimmer with every passing year? Skilled visas such as the 189/190 can only be lodged if the Government invites you to lodge a visa. Invitations are limited so as not to go over the quota for the year. Visas which have strict yearly caps and no invitation process have very long queues. Examples include non contributory parent and remaining relative visas which have queues into the decades. As the supply becomes restricted and demand increases, the queues become longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Raul Senise said: Skilled visas such as the 189/190 can only be lodged if the Government invites you to lodge a visa. Invitations are limited so as not to go over the quota for the year. Visas which have strict yearly caps and no invitation process have very long queues. Examples include non contributory parent and remaining relative visas which have queues into the decades. As the supply becomes restricted and demand increases, the queues become longer. what actually is the point of having queues into decades, ive never understood that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, can1983 said: what actually is the point of having queues into decades, ive never understood that because they have quotas and can only grant a certain number per year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nemesis said: because they have quotas and can only grant a certain number per year Yeah I know but why accept an application from a 70 year old saying that your application is due for processing in 2145? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 hours ago, can1983 said: Yeah I know but why accept an application from a 70 year old saying that your application is due for processing in 2145? So you're suggesting they should just refuse to accept all applications outside the quota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 17 hours ago, can1983 said: what actually is the point of having queues into decades, ive never understood that 16 hours ago, can1983 said: Yeah I know but why accept an application from a 70 year old saying that your application is due for processing in 2145? It does appear ridiculous that the Government accepts applications that will never be processed in the lifetime of the applicant. The Government did try changing the law to stop exactly that, but it was so heavily opposed by Greens Senator Sarah Hanson Young that it resulted in disallowance and the practice allowed to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Marisawright said: So you're suggesting they should just refuse to accept all applications outside the quota? Yes I think applications should be refused if the applicant will be 140 years old at the time of processing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Raul Senise said: It does appear ridiculous that the Government accepts applications that will never be processed in the lifetime of the applicant. The Government did try changing the law to stop exactly that, but it was so heavily opposed by Greens Senator Sarah Hanson Young that it resulted in disallowance and the practice allowed to continue. shame but at least someone tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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