Paul1Perth Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, renebascossarabi said: Are you a dumb leftist Commie Tree Hugger? The gift of human sentient existence is many times better than not causing people to exist. The more souls who get to experience life the better, even when its a life of pain at least you feel sensations and not just be a gaping void. Andddd puhhhlleeease hon. Stop your virtue signaling on me, you should tell the Indians and Chinese to be the ones to control their populations since Europeans are the global minority and a shrinking one at that, and your features arent even dominant theyre recessive. If it were up to me rarer types of people like Aboriginal Australians, Blonde Melanesians and Native Americans who survived genocide as well as the shrinking European population, should breed more and not let us fecund Asians flood the world with our Mass Produced Clone Populace. You missed out Africa there dude. Trying to get them to cut back on having kids when they're already starving has proved troublesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 So as well as all the mixed race stuff you have the worse complication of mixed religions. You only have to look at Ireland to see how people of the same colour and background can't get on because of brainwashing by either protestant or catholic religions. Religion has a lot to answer for. Like marissa says, the world is already overpopulated and instead of blaming climate change on CO2 in the atmosphere we would have been fine to cut back on birth rates 100 years ago.Mind you a lack of religion also agrevates the sins of humanity. Look at the Soviet Russians who are Communist and enforce state Atheism. A system that considers people merely "human resources" and that "souls do not exist". Inherently degrades the dignity of man. Also a living sentient being with consciousness is a great blessing on our Universe which tends towards the Law of Entropy; and intelligence which seeks beauty and strength defies this fallen creation of a Universe in Entropy. You are going against the great struggle by willfully trying to reduce the number of sentient beings on Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 You missed out Africa there dude. Trying to get them to cut back on having kids when they're already starving has proved troublesome. Kids are good but please do manage them. Those with higher quality of life should reproduce more, marry quality with quantity duh. There should only be replacement level children for less precious people and many more children for more precious people, until things harmonize and then we calibrate again but lets not take away free will while at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, renebascossarabi said: Kids are good but please do manage them. Those with higher quality of life should reproduce more, marry quality with quantity duh. There should only be replacement level children for less precious people and many more children for more precious people, until things harmonize and then we calibrate again but lets not take away free will while at it. I think you would have been happier during the era of Nazi Germany. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Toots said: I think you would have been happier during the era of Nazi Germany. Another troll, it must be the time of year or something 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: Kids are good but please do manage them. Those with higher quality of life should reproduce more, marry quality with quantity duh. There should only be replacement level children for less precious people and many more children for more precious people, until things harmonize and then we calibrate again but lets not take away free will while at it. You need professional help... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hahaha no. I love being Filipino and we are at the intersection of many cultures with our own unique interpretions, coupled with the modesty of not considering ourselves culturally superior which gives us many insights with objective clarity compared to purist and proud Nazi Germany who let their vainglory make their downfall. However, as a player from the enemy team, I give mad respect for them for being worthy opponents. I would be happy in the time of Nazi Germany, not necessarily, but enflamed with mission, yes, as one of the hundreds of thousands of Filipino and American soldiers delaying the advance of the similar racial supremacist Japanese, Southwards to give Australia ample breathing space in order to fight back... Importance The defense of the Philippines was the longest resistance to the Japanese Imperial Army in the initial stages of World War II. After the Battle of Abucay the Japanese started to withdraw from Bataan, and resumed their attack in April, thus allowing MacArthur forty precious days for the preparation of Australia as an operational base. Philippine-American resistance against the Japanese up to the fall of Bataan on 9 April 1942 lasted 105 days (3 months and 2 days). Source: Atienza, R. (1985). A Time for War: 105 Days in Bataan. Manila: Eugenia S. vda. de Atienza But judging by the two thumbs up by peeps here of your biased unuanced phrases given for you, it seems that you guys are not interested in genuine insights if they shake you out of your comfort zones. This is sad that you condemn a Malayo Polynesian like me since we consider the South the land of the brave since those who sail south in their flimsy boats dont have the guidance of the constant north star in Astro-Geographical Bearings; everything is moving, the constellations shift according to the position of earth; and the wandering planets are not constant fixtures either, you have do be adept and observant at the constant flux in your navigation because again, the Constant North Star isnt there to help you, meaning the brave and pioneering went to the great Southern Cross survived bor children and went back to tell the tale. But mmmkay do condemn my insights and do say that this brown dude who would likely be killed for being a mongrel by the purist Nazis would be glad to live under Nazi Germany. Step your game up Aussies youre supposed to be our Christian Westernized ally in the Orient but here you are throwing stones of damnation to people like me, who only want to improve you and protect you from the northern scum who cheat, i.e. the British who used you as a penal colony, the Chinese who buy all your property leaving native born Ozzies poor as they launder money through you as you also get status seeking gold diggers from India and even Europe and the Philippines as immigrants mostly. Nobody corrupts my beloved southern cross and gets away without a nice verbal thrashing from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Another troll, it must be the time of year or somethingOh look at the anonymous hypocrite with no picture in the avatar calling somebody who uses his real name and identity a "troll". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 TLDR, know your damn worth you bunch of crazy lefty self suicidals. Australia and New Zealand are literally the only European people in the Orient now, sure the Philippines in the past was where people were mixed with European admixeture around 1/4rth give or take: we even had half Spanish Presidents and leaders like Emilio Aguinaldo who had a full Spanish Father or Pardo de Tavera who had a Portuguese ancestry, or Francis de Cailles who had an Indian mother and French Father. But it all went downhill and with unrestricted Chinese and Indian immigration plus Malay unfettered breeding further diluting the Hispanic, Latino or European in the Filipino. You are special just descended from some rubbish though, but at least in Asia; Europe's Rubbish is special for being out of place and unique! Stop shooting yourselves in the foot and find a golden balance between navel staring white supremacism and then the other extreme of brown nosing yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Also Australia is the only place where the Denisovan admixed Aboriginals live (Highest Denisovan admixture ever) cherish your uniqueness dont butcher it by being so overly extra about the tiniest stuff and in an increasingly globalizing world the local is special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: Hahaha no. I love being Filipino and we are at the intersection of many cultures with our own unique interpretions, coupled with the modesty of not considering ourselves culturally superior which gives us many insights with objective clarity compared to purist and proud Nazi Germany who let their vainglory make their downfall. However, as a player from the enemy team, I give mad respect for them for being worthy opponents. I would be happy in the time of Nazi Germany, not necessarily, but enflamed with mission, yes, as one of the hundreds of thousands of Filipino and American soldiers delaying the advance of the similar racial supremacist Japanese, Southwards to give Australia ample breathing space in order to fight back... Importance The defense of the Philippines was the longest resistance to the Japanese Imperial Army in the initial stages of World War II. After the Battle of Abucay the Japanese started to withdraw from Bataan, and resumed their attack in April, thus allowing MacArthur forty precious days for the preparation of Australia as an operational base. Philippine-American resistance against the Japanese up to the fall of Bataan on 9 April 1942 lasted 105 days (3 months and 2 days). Source: Atienza, R. (1985). A Time for War: 105 Days in Bataan. Manila: Eugenia S. vda. de Atienza But judging by the two thumbs up by peeps here of your biased unuanced phrases given for you, it seems that you guys are not interested in genuine insights if they shake you out of your comfort zones. This is sad that you condemn a Malayo Polynesian like me since we consider the South the land of the brave since those who sail south in their flimsy boats dont have the guidance of the constant north star in Astro-Geographical Bearings; everything is moving, the constellations shift according to the position of earth; and the wandering planets are not constant fixtures either, you have do be adept and observant at the constant flux in your navigation because again, the Constant North Star isnt there to help you, meaning the brave and pioneering went to the great Southern Cross survived bor children and went back to tell the tale. But mmmkay do condemn my insights and do say that this brown dude who would likely be killed for being a mongrel by the purist Nazis would be glad to live under Nazi Germany. Step your game up Aussies youre supposed to be our Christian Westernized ally in the Orient but here you are throwing stones of damnation to people like me, who only want to improve you and protect you from the northern scum who cheat, i.e. the British who used you as a penal colony, the Chinese who buy all your property leaving native born Ozzies poor as they launder money through you as you also get status seeking gold diggers from India and even Europe and the Philippines as immigrants mostly. Nobody corrupts my beloved southern cross and gets away without a nice verbal thrashing from me. You talk about wanting to protect us from the ‘northern scum who cheat ie. the British’ ....... are you not aware that a huge majority of people on this site are British? The clue is in the forum title not everyone is and others are just as welcomed but we do usually like to have a clue what posters are talking about and you lost me in your first post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: Nobody corrupts my beloved southern cross and gets away without a nice verbal thrashing from me. It's not your southern cross. If corruption is truly your concern go play in the Philippines - it needs you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: Hahaha no. I love being Filipino and we are at the intersection of many cultures with our own unique interpretions, coupled with the modesty of not considering ourselves culturally superior which gives us many insights with objective clarity compared to purist and proud Nazi Germany who let their vainglory make their downfall. However, as a player from the enemy team, I give mad respect for them for being worthy opponents. I would be happy in the time of Nazi Germany, not necessarily, but enflamed with mission, yes, as one of the hundreds of thousands of Filipino and American soldiers delaying the advance of the similar racial supremacist Japanese, Southwards to give Australia ample breathing space in order to fight back... Importance The defense of the Philippines was the longest resistance to the Japanese Imperial Army in the initial stages of World War II. After the Battle of Abucay the Japanese started to withdraw from Bataan, and resumed their attack in April, thus allowing MacArthur forty precious days for the preparation of Australia as an operational base. Philippine-American resistance against the Japanese up to the fall of Bataan on 9 April 1942 lasted 105 days (3 months and 2 days). Source: Atienza, R. (1985). A Time for War: 105 Days in Bataan. Manila: Eugenia S. vda. de Atienza But judging by the two thumbs up by peeps here of your biased unuanced phrases given for you, it seems that you guys are not interested in genuine insights if they shake you out of your comfort zones. This is sad that you condemn a Malayo Polynesian like me since we consider the South the land of the brave since those who sail south in their flimsy boats dont have the guidance of the constant north star in Astro-Geographical Bearings; everything is moving, the constellations shift according to the position of earth; and the wandering planets are not constant fixtures either, you have do be adept and observant at the constant flux in your navigation because again, the Constant North Star isnt there to help you, meaning the brave and pioneering went to the great Southern Cross survived bor children and went back to tell the tale. But mmmkay do condemn my insights and do say that this brown dude who would likely be killed for being a mongrel by the purist Nazis would be glad to live under Nazi Germany. Step your game up Aussies youre supposed to be our Christian Westernized ally in the Orient but here you are throwing stones of damnation to people like me, who only want to improve you and protect you from the northern scum who cheat, i.e. the British who used you as a penal colony, the Chinese who buy all your property leaving native born Ozzies poor as they launder money through you as you also get status seeking gold diggers from India and even Europe and the Philippines as immigrants mostly. Nobody corrupts my beloved southern cross and gets away without a nice verbal thrashing from me. Don't worry about your Aussie neighbours mate, we work under the pretence of "she'll be right mate". If it wasn't for Britain using it as a penal colony the majority of us wouldn't be here, so I thank Britain for that. The chinese may well be buying a lot of property but they also buy lots of our natural resources which keeps a lot of Aussies pretty well off, not poor as you seem to think. Ah well if you ever make it here you'll be pleasantly surprised I reckon. That's if your not expecting everyone to be devout Christians though, there's a mix of religions and a lot of atheists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 You talk about wanting to protect us from the ‘northern scum who cheat ie. the British’ ....... are you not aware that a huge majority of people on this site are British? The clue is in the forum title [emoji848] not everyone is and others are just as welcomed but we do usually like to have a clue what posters are talking about and you lost me in your first post. Obviously I make a distinction between those of British descent born in Australia and those who are merely British. Mind you in the revolutions then gripping Latin America and the Philippines, many of those leading the revolution against Spain were local born Spaniards who were disgusted with the predatory behavior of elitist capital-born Spanish... Here are examples: In the 19th century, Philippine ports opened to world trade and shifts started occurring within Filipino society. Many Spaniards born in the Philippines (criollos)[203] and those of mixed ancestry (mestizos) became wealthy and an influx of Hispanic American immigrants opened up government positions traditionally held by Spaniards born in the Iberian Peninsula (peninsulares). However, ideas of rebellion and independence began to spread through the islands. Many Latin-Americans[204] and Criollos were mostly officers in the army of Spanish Philippines. However, the onset of the Latin American wars of independence led to serious doubts of their loyalty, this was compounded by the fact that in the Mexican War of Independence, a Mexican of Filipino descent, Isidoro Montes de Oca, became a formidable captain-general to the revolutionary leader Vicente Guerrero.[205][206][207] So, to prevent the union of forces by both Latinos and Filipinos in rebellion against the empire, the Latino and Criollo officers stationed in the Philippines were soon replaced by Peninsular officers born in Spain. These Peninsular officers were often less committed to the people they were assigned to protect and were often predatory, wanting to enrich themselves before returning to Spain, putting the interests of the metropolis over the interest of the natives. The Criollo and Latino dissatisfaction against them spurred by their love of the land and their suffering people had a justified hatred against the exploitative Peninsulares who were only appointed due to their race and unflinching loyalty to the homeland. This resulted in the uprising of Andres Novales a Philippine born soldier who earned great fame in richer Spain but chose to return to serve in poorer Philippines. He was supported by local soldiers as well as former officers in the Spanish army of the Philippines who were from the now independent nations of Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica.[208] The uprising was brutally suppressed but it foreshadowed the 1872 Cavite Mutiny that was a precursor to the Philippine Revolution. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines About him... Andres Novales Andrés Novales (c. 1800 – 2 June 1823) was a Creole captain in the Spanish Army in the PhilippinesNovales' discontent with the way Spanish authorities treated creoles later grew, reaching its climax when peninsulars were shipped to the Philippines to replace creole officers. He found sympathy of many Creoles, including Luis Rodríguez Varela, the Conde Filipino as well as the demoted Latin American officers in the Spanish army. “Officers in the army of the Philippines were almost totally composed of Americans,” observed the Spanish historian José Montero y Vidal. “They received in great disgust the arrival of peninsular officers as reinforcements, partly because they supposed they would be shoved aside in the promotions and partly because of racial antagonisms.” As punishment for this dissent, many military officers and public officials were exiled, including Novales, who was exiled to Mindanao to fight pirates. Undeterred, he secretly returned to Manila.[1]On the night of June 1, 1823, Novales along with a certain sub-lieutenant Ruiz and other subordinates in the King's Regiment, as well as discontented former Latino officers “americanos”, composed mostly of Mexicans with a sprinkling of creoles and mestizos from the now independent nations of Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica,[3] went out to start a revolt.[2][4] Along with 800 Filipinos in which his sergeants recruited, they seized the Governor-General's Palace, the Manila Cathedral, the city's cabildo (city hall) and other important government buildings in Intramuros. Here is another Philippine Born Spanish descended Patriot... José Apolonio Burgos y García was a Filipino Catholic priest, accused of mutiny by the Spanish colonial authorities in the Philippines in the 19th century. He was placed in a mock trial and summarily executed in Manila along with two other clergymen, Mariano Gómez and Jacinto Zamora, who are collectively known as the Gomburza.Jose Burgos, baptized Jose Apolonio Burgos y García, was born in Vigan, Ilocos Sur on February 9, 1837 to a Spanish officer, Don José Tiburcio Burgos, and a Filipino mestiza mother named Florencia García. He obtained three undergraduate degrees with honors, two master's degrees and two doctorate degrees from the Colegio de San Juan de Letran and from the University of Santo Tomas. He conducted his first mass in the Intramuros. The Philippines and Latin America is chalk full of Europeans and European descended people who sided with the natives and local born in revolts against the Imperial Capital which only sought to suck resources from the colonies. I was assuming that most "British" descended Aussies would be like us. But maybe I was mistaken... I assumed that was the case since the English shipped Irish political prisoners here and the Irish were rebellious against Britain due the English made Irish famine and the "Troubles", and they also sent Scots abd Welsh who are also struggling under English domination. The Scots for example, allied with France against England. Mostly good men but political prisoners from Ireland, Scotland and Wales and common criminals from England. I do not mean any harm to the British in general just the bad ones who polluted our Southern Cross, Australia: and made her a den of thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samlab Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 @renebascossarabi You do go on a bit blah blah blah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Skani said: It's not your southern cross. If corruption is truly your concern go play in the Philippines - it needs you more. My family is already involved in politics; my mother was a city councilor and my uncle is a governor and we were responsible for transforming my hometown from among the most dtug infested to the one eith loeest crime rate in the country. Yes, I play in the Philippines, literally: "We are Players". Yes it is. My Southern Cross. I already have lands and a great sums of money in the bank here in the Philippines from inheritance. I could live comfortably in Manila just by leeching off my trust funds if I wanted to. But being Christian thats not the virtuous way, Christ wants us to take up our crosses and live above our comfort zones. Honestly, Australian politics bores me, you guys are not as ancient, cosmopolitan, racially complex or culturally diverse as us historically speaking. You have foreign imigrants sure like Indians, Arabs, Chinese or Europeans that "culturally enrich" you. But its distilled and artificially induced instead of raw struggles like here in the Philipines where it is much more sophisticated and complex like for example the Tamil descended Rajah Sri Lumay had to defend his Rajahnate from Muslims led by descendants of the Mecca born Emir Shariff Ali or that there is a complex web of interactions in the Spanish era like as explained before: Hindu and Pagan Filipinos allied with Christian Spanish officers and their Christianized Mexican soldiers while the Philippines have more in common with the Amerindian people being Christianized since the Pagan and Hindus were also being Christianized in a common alliance against Muslims that invaded both Spain and the Philippines while simultaneously subsisting on using the Arabic culture and language they have in common to communicate; while simultanously hating the Arabs, isnt it a great mind**** to use the language of the enemy to communicate with your friends and use the language of your now friend and future opressor to communicate with your former enemy and now ally in ther revolution as you elevate a slave sub-language: Mexican-Spanish into a dominant military based Creole: Chavacano? Its way to exciting and culturally rich here... Yet Australia is going after prostitues in Thailand who sided with Axis Powers who tried to murder you. Than a people tailor fitted to be your natural bro in Southeast Asia... Australia: * European descent, check; Christian religion, check; English speaking, check; Western culture, check; Allied Power in World War 2, check... Philipines: * (Partial) European descent, check; Christian religion, check; English speaking, check; Western culture, check; Allied Power in World War 2, check... Thailand: Full Asian, mmkay; Buddhist, mmkay; Non-English speaking, mmmkay; Axis power in WW2 (I kid you not they joined Japan as their ally and helped massacre Aussies, Brits and Americans) _The Blue areas are either Axis Powers or those allied to the Axis _ Australia: Lyke! Errrmaaageeerrrdd let's make love to a people who only decades ago tried to exterminate us from the face of the earth! While were at it let's ignore the people who tried to save us and condemn one of their sons as a troll! Australian tourists in Thailand: 801,637 Australian tourists in the Philippines: 279,821 And actually... In all honesty I dont want to leave the Philippines but Christ DEMANDS sacrifice and exercise plus asceticism for our own good. So Im choosing to leave my exciting pampered existence to go be with you because I dont know maybe you offer things that cannot be achieved in the Philippines and I can offer things that cannot be achieved in Australia. Edited December 4, 2019 by Cerberus1 removed profanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The Philippines only looks like an asshole pooping on Ozzies if you have a northern centric perspective but it looks like an embracing person from a perspective where the south is dominant. Make Australia the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, renebascossarabi said: Australia: * European descent, check; Christian religion, check; English speaking, check; Western culture, check; Allied Power in World War 2, check... Just to take issue with one small part of the stunning amount of tosh you have poured onto this thread........ Many Australians are not of European descent Many people resident in Australia do not follow Christianity. There are many other recognised religions, and a lot of people are atheists, Many people resident i Australia either don't speak English or only have a basic functional knowledge of the language Today's Australia is a mix of cultures. Those from an Eastern background are hardly likely to abandon their culture completely on moving to Australia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The world is full of angry people, sadly. Guess it is better to be angry with the pen than with the sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: Obviously I make a distinction between those of British descent born in Australia and those who are merely British. Mind you in the revolutions then gripping Latin America and the Philippines, many of those leading the revolution against Spain were local born Spaniards who were disgusted with the predatory behavior of elitist capital-born Spanish... Here are examples: In the 19th century, Philippine ports opened to world trade and shifts started occurring within Filipino society. Many Spaniards born in the Philippines (criollos)[203] and those of mixed ancestry (mestizos) became wealthy and an influx of Hispanic American immigrants opened up government positions traditionally held by Spaniards born in the Iberian Peninsula (peninsulares). However, ideas of rebellion and independence began to spread through the islands. Many Latin-Americans[204] and Criollos were mostly officers in the army of Spanish Philippines. However, the onset of the Latin American wars of independence led to serious doubts of their loyalty, this was compounded by the fact that in the Mexican War of Independence, a Mexican of Filipino descent, Isidoro Montes de Oca, became a formidable captain-general to the revolutionary leader Vicente Guerrero.[205][206][207] So, to prevent the union of forces by both Latinos and Filipinos in rebellion against the empire, the Latino and Criollo officers stationed in the Philippines were soon replaced by Peninsular officers born in Spain. These Peninsular officers were often less committed to the people they were assigned to protect and were often predatory, wanting to enrich themselves before returning to Spain, putting the interests of the metropolis over the interest of the natives. The Criollo and Latino dissatisfaction against them spurred by their love of the land and their suffering people had a justified hatred against the exploitative Peninsulares who were only appointed due to their race and unflinching loyalty to the homeland. This resulted in the uprising of Andres Novales a Philippine born soldier who earned great fame in richer Spain but chose to return to serve in poorer Philippines. He was supported by local soldiers as well as former officers in the Spanish army of the Philippines who were from the now independent nations of Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica.[208] The uprising was brutally suppressed but it foreshadowed the 1872 Cavite Mutiny that was a precursor to the Philippine Revolution. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines About him... Andres Novales Andrés Novales (c. 1800 – 2 June 1823) was a Creole captain in the Spanish Army in the Philippines Novales' discontent with the way Spanish authorities treated creoles later grew, reaching its climax when peninsulars were shipped to the Philippines to replace creole officers. He found sympathy of many Creoles, including Luis Rodríguez Varela, the Conde Filipino as well as the demoted Latin American officers in the Spanish army. “Officers in the army of the Philippines were almost totally composed of Americans,” observed the Spanish historian José Montero y Vidal. “They received in great disgust the arrival of peninsular officers as reinforcements, partly because they supposed they would be shoved aside in the promotions and partly because of racial antagonisms.” As punishment for this dissent, many military officers and public officials were exiled, including Novales, who was exiled to Mindanao to fight pirates. Undeterred, he secretly returned to Manila.[1] On the night of June 1, 1823, Novales along with a certain sub-lieutenant Ruiz and other subordinates in the King's Regiment, as well as discontented former Latino officers “americanos”, composed mostly of Mexicans with a sprinkling of creoles and mestizos from the now independent nations of Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica,[3] went out to start a revolt.[2][4] Along with 800 Filipinos in which his sergeants recruited, they seized the Governor-General's Palace, the Manila Cathedral, the city's cabildo (city hall) and other important government buildings in Intramuros. Here is another Philippine Born Spanish descended Patriot... José Apolonio Burgos y García was a Filipino Catholic priest, accused of mutiny by the Spanish colonial authorities in the Philippines in the 19th century. He was placed in a mock trial and summarily executed in Manila along with two other clergymen, Mariano Gómez and Jacinto Zamora, who are collectively known as the Gomburza. Jose Burgos, baptized Jose Apolonio Burgos y García, was born in Vigan, Ilocos Sur on February 9, 1837 to a Spanish officer, Don José Tiburcio Burgos, and a Filipino mestiza mother named Florencia García. He obtained three undergraduate degrees with honors, two master's degrees and two doctorate degrees from the Colegio de San Juan de Letran and from the University of Santo Tomas. He conducted his first mass in the Intramuros. The Philippines and Latin America is chalk full of Europeans and European descended people who sided with the natives and local born in revolts against the Imperial Capital which only sought to suck resources from the colonies. I was assuming that most "British" descended Aussies would be like us. But maybe I was mistaken... I assumed that was the case since the English shipped Irish political prisoners here and the Irish were rebellious against Britain due the English made Irish famine and the "Troubles", and they also sent Scots abd Welsh who are also struggling under English domination. The Scots for example, allied with France against England. Mostly good men but political prisoners from Ireland, Scotland and Wales and common criminals from England. I do not mean any harm to the British in general just the bad ones who polluted our Southern Cross, Australia: and made her a den of thieves. You're a walking encyclopedia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 27/11/2019 at 11:36, jack13 said: I'm sure she'll appreciate your fine advise. I'm not sure of the reason for your internet rage, but I agree with everyone else. As sad as it is for the individual and family he knew the process. You aren't guaranteed a visa until it is granted, he should have been advised to go back to the UK and qualify in something that would have made him eligible. The system is very black and white. You can't let people off just because they have been on student visas and bridging visas for ages otherwise everyone would do it. I guess most of us have gone through traditional routes to get visas as well so we maybe wouldn't understand why there is a need to try and 'beat the system.' I retrained like many do, so it can be done. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 You're a walking encyclopedia!Not really there are alot more smarter people out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 hours ago, renebascossarabi said: 21 hours ago, benj1980 said: You're a walking encyclopedia! Not really there are alot more smarter people out there. There certainly are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 ADMIN NOTE: Can we please get back on topic, this post was about a gentleman taking his own life due to the visa process. If you wish to continue a political debate you are welcome to start another thread in CTF. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Ok will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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