g_CS_teacher Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 17/01/2023 at 12:35, benj1980 said: Guess what. I came over as a High School teacher after going through the SCITT pathway. To suggest AITSL simply rejects them is inaccurate, unless AITSL changed their policy after I was successful. When I completed my application there were others in the same position as me and they all managed to get their visas as well. @Rob Frain I'd suggest your qualification would be accepted by the registration bodies in different states. WA are currently offering sponsorship - exciting times. Sorry to raise this again. I am in similar position and wondered what documentation you submitted to AITSL as evidence which they accepted? Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 26/07/2023 at 17:02, g_CS_teacher said: Sorry to raise this again. I am in similar position and wondered what documentation you submitted to AITSL as evidence which they accepted? Thanks so much! I had a letter stating my practicum days this was signed by the Academic Registrar, an academic transcript from the University stating the units that I completed and my PGCE certificate. My associated university was very accommodating, I appreciate many aren't and they are not required to provide an academic transcript. This was all on the University headed paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyCat Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 27/03/2023 at 15:32, cg9456 said: That is so weird? I know three people who did Teach First where Teach First chose their training school, but they then did a full-time PGCE alongside Teach First and all three of them were accepted (one literally one week ago!). This really makes no sense at all. Hi, I know this was a while ago. I did Teach First and am looking to move to Australia. Do you know how they managed to bypass the 45 day teaching observation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 14 hours ago, SleepyCat said: Hi, I know this was a while ago. I did Teach First and am looking to move to Australia. Do you know how they managed to bypass the 45 day teaching observation? You'll note, they said that those three people also did a full-time PGCE alongside it. Are you in the same position? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg9456 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 02/09/2023 at 09:34, SleepyCat said: Hi, I know this was a while ago. I did Teach First and am looking to move to Australia. Do you know how they managed to bypass the 45 day teaching observation? Hey, during the Teach First PGCE my uni professor and in-school mentor both observed often so I just asked Canterbury Uni to provide a letter to that fact and they did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayD91 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 10:09, cg9456 said: Hey, during the Teach First PGCE my uni professor and in-school mentor both observed often so I just asked Canterbury Uni to provide a letter to that fact and they did You'll be fine with Teach First the university side of it is robust. They are more skeptical of SCITTs than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayD91 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I have just gone through AITSL as a Maths teacher who qualified through a SCITT with a PGCE alongside it and got a positive assessment . It was a long journey, took roughly 6 months instead of 6 weeks but it is possible! I have to say I don't think I would have got a positive assessment without my migration agent, they know what you need to do and were very helpful to me, I'm not going to name them don't want this to sound like an ad! But just to say to anyone thinking of applying as a SCITT, yes it is possible, but it's hard and you never know what the outcome will be, but how will you ever know without trying?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire_88 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Evening Haydn Drake could you please advise me who this agent is. I am currently over in Victoria now. I have had a rejected application and have had letters providing how the PGCE was completed. I teach designs and technology which I know is in demand and am not prepared to redo all my teaching all based on a provider we did our teaching with. I would be extremely grateful if you could forward me the agents company kind regards Claire Naysmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 30/10/2023 at 07:49, Haydn Drake said: I have just gone through AITSL as a Maths teacher who qualified through a SCITT with a PGCE alongside it and got a positive assessment . It was a long journey, took roughly 6 months instead of 6 weeks but it is possible! I have to say I don't think I would have got a positive assessment without my migration agent, they know what you need to do and were very helpful to me, I'm not going to name them don't want this to sound like an ad! But just to say to anyone thinking of applying as a SCITT, yes it is possible, but it's hard and you never know what the outcome will be, but how will you ever know without trying?! Hi, can I ask who the agent was that you used? We are looking to relocate and we were hoping to look at the 190 visa. I have a BA Honours in Education (3 years), followed by a SCITT but without PGCE as I had already completed all the modules (or similar) in my uni degree. I am currently working an Australian International School as a classroom teacher and Head of Year. My performance management is assessed against the AITSL standards and I teach to the ACARA outcomes yet I won’t even make it through the skills assessment. Seems insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellieb85 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Sorry to jump on this thread but I did a SCITT with the PGCE side through a university. I have contacted the University and they have been very helpful so far and have said if I can get the SCITT to provide them with the information of my supervised hours they will include this in their document. So, to avoid missing anything out before I send the Uni all the details to include, could someone check I've included everything... Academic transcript Evidence of supervised practice (do they just want to know how many days? Or any other information?) University headed paper - dated and signed Anything else? Keeping fingers crossed this will be enough to convince AITSL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayD91 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 11/04/2024 at 05:08, Leah said: Hi, can I ask who the agent was that you used? We are looking to relocate and we were hoping to look at the 190 visa. I have a BA Honours in Education (3 years), followed by a SCITT but without PGCE as I had already completed all the modules (or similar) in my uni degree. I am currently working an Australian International School as a classroom teacher and Head of Year. My performance management is assessed against the AITSL standards and I teach to the ACARA outcomes yet I won’t even make it through the skills assessment. Seems insane! Hi Leah, Unfortunately I think you'll have a hard time with AITSL because they state explicitly the course must be 4 years, and one reason people get rejected with SCITTs is the lack of academic rigor (their words not mine) so without a PGCE and only a 3 year course it'll be hard, you may have to go back and do a masters in education, but speak to a Migration agent about this. I used TrueBlue Migration, they're not cheap but they are always reply daily and were very helpful to me before any contracts were signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayD91 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 13 hours ago, Ellieb85 said: Sorry to jump on this thread but I did a SCITT with the PGCE side through a university. I have contacted the University and they have been very helpful so far and have said if I can get the SCITT to provide them with the information of my supervised hours they will include this in their document. So, to avoid missing anything out before I send the Uni all the details to include, could someone check I've included everything... Academic transcript Evidence of supervised practice (do they just want to know how many days? Or any other information?) University headed paper - dated and signed Anything else? Keeping fingers crossed this will be enough to convince AITSL! They want to know how many days, what age group, what school, what year group. As far as what to say to them I'm not sure because my migration agent handled AITSL they just asked me for documents etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamsen Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 15/02/2023 at 20:03, Rob Frain said: Everything crossed. I did spot they did 35,000 invites in December. I hope this doesn’t mean there will be a delay or a greatly reduced amount in the next invite stages. Any advance on this? I have a PGCE and transcript through the University of Leeds but SCITT through a teacher training provider. Any advice on getting around this issue or alternative options are much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamsen Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 My University have provided a letter to confirm that I completed my PGCE with them and have referenced an attached secondary letter from my teacher training provider with reference to my hours and age range etc. E.g. ‘The placement for this Programme was carried out through our collaboration with Red Kite Teacher Training, where the attached letter confirms…’ What are people’s thoughts on this being sufficient as I’ve read that the teaching observations needs to be administered by the university not training provider? Any advice is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire12 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Hi all new to this thread as I have just realised the issue of gaining AITSL approval with my teacher training through SCITT. I have been offered a position at a school in NSW teaching physics and it was only through getting the information sent from them today that I realised this is going to be a problem. I do have a PGCE from a university that I did along my SCITT but as with others all my placements and supervision was done through the SCITT provider. I will email the uni and see if they can help. My other issue is do I now decline the job offer as I do not want to hand in my notice with my current job if AITSL rejects me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Claire12 said: Hi all new to this thread as I have just realised the issue of gaining AITSL approval with my teacher training through SCITT. I have been offered a position at a school in NSW teaching physics and it was only through getting the information sent from them today that I realised this is going to be a problem. I do have a PGCE from a university that I did along my SCITT but as with others all my placements and supervision was done through the SCITT provider. I will email the uni and see if they can help. My other issue is do I now decline the job offer as I do not want to hand in my notice with my current job if AITSL rejects me Is the school sponsoring you for a visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 10 hours ago, Claire12 said: My other issue is do I now decline the job offer as I do not want to hand in my notice with my current job if AITSL rejects me Why would you hand your notice in at your current job? There's no law that says you have to give notice if you accept a new job. Do you already have a visa for Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire12 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 22 hours ago, paulhand said: Is the school sponsoring you for a visa? Yes they where going through the 482 visa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 18 minutes ago, Claire12 said: Yes they where going through the 482 visa You don’t need a skills assessment (which is what AITSL do) for a 482 visa. You will need teacher registration in NSW though. I assume the school has a professional immigration advisor, so it would be worth speaking with them or getting independent advice on your situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 22 minutes ago, Claire12 said: Yes they where going through the 482 visa In that case, definitely don't hand in your notice yet. You don't know how long it's going to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire12 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Thanks, Paul, I am having a zoom meeting with them tomorrow so will ask about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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