rammygirl Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) We will be driving from Adelaide Hills to Canberra soon. Over two days ( not in a rush but can be done in a day). Roads are not exactly busy though! You can cover a lot of ground here compared to the Uk in the same time. Edited April 2, 2021 by rammygirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavers Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, rammygirl said: We will be driving from Adelaide Hills to Canberra soon. Over two days ( not in a rush but can be done in a day). Roads are not exactly busy though! You can cover a lot of ground here compared to the Uk in the same time. That's true, the traffic in the valley was horrendous. Always digging up the road somewhere haha I don't miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) If you can make the numbers add up then consider an EV. I’ve used free chargers mostly (at Woolies etc) so only spent $17 on ‘fuel’ in total so far. Edited April 2, 2021 by mt9754 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, mt9754 said: If you can make the numbers add up then consider an EV. I’ve used free chargers mostly (at Woolies etc) so only spent $17 on ‘fuel’ in total so far. What did you pay for new ev car ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I've filled my UK car up three times in the last twelve months. Pandemic has saved us a fortune in travel expenses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 18 hours ago, rammygirl said: We will be driving from Adelaide Hills to Canberra soon. Over two days ( not in a rush but can be done in a day). Roads are not exactly busy though! You can cover a lot of ground here compared to the Uk in the same time. If you don’t have local info or want to know anything let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Rallyman said: What did you pay for new ev car ? 2nd hand start at $20k (eg Nissan Leaf), new from $40k (eg MG ZS EV) or $70k for Hyundai Kona / Tesla Model 3. Also bear in mind modern EVs need almost zero servicing (wiper fluid, tyre rotation), last much longer and resale values hold up better as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, mt9754 said: 2nd hand start at $20k (eg Nissan Leaf), new from $40k (eg MG ZS EV) or $70k for Hyundai Kona / Tesla Model 3. Also bear in mind modern EVs need almost zero servicing (wiper fluid, tyre rotation), last much longer and resale values hold up better as a result. I quite like the look of the Mitsubishi Outlander plug in hybrid. Although mine won't need replacing for five years plus, and it may be a different ball game then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, newjez said: I quite like the look of the Mitsubishi Outlander plug in hybrid. Although mine won't need replacing for five years plus, and it may be a different ball game then. Yes those hybrid plugins will be gone in a couple of years and EVs should be cheaper than ICE cars by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Bulya said: If you don’t have local info or want to know anything let me know. We do the trip a few times a year to see our son. We are going up to Katoomba as well this time. COVID willing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, mt9754 said: 2nd hand start at $20k (eg Nissan Leaf), new from $40k (eg MG ZS EV) or $70k for Hyundai Kona / Tesla Model 3. Also bear in mind modern EVs need almost zero servicing (wiper fluid, tyre rotation), last much longer and resale values hold up better as a result. good article on service costs etc interesting that the advice to maximise battery quality only charge to 80% They are going to get more popular and cost will come down to purchase possibly ( hopefully) but they are not going to save the planet in next ten years if we are to believe ER mob imho https://www.canstarblue.com.au/vehicles/electric-car-servicing/ 10 cheapest cars in Australia still a fair way to go for EV to be 100% competitive https://www.carsguide.com.au/urban/hacks/10-cheapest-new-cars-for-sale-in-australia-79239 Edited April 3, 2021 by Rallyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Rallyman said: good article on service costs etc interesting that the advice to maximise battery quality only charge to 80% They are going to get more popular and cost will come down to purchase possibly ( hopefully) but they are not going to save the planet in next ten years if we are to believe ER mob imho https://www.canstarblue.com.au/vehicles/electric-car-servicing/ 10 cheapest cars in Australia still a fair way to go for EV to be 100% competitive https://www.carsguide.com.au/urban/hacks/10-cheapest-new-cars-for-sale-in-australia-79239 True, not there yet but things are moving quick. The new batteries this year can now charge to 100% and still last 800,000km before degrading a bit - the technology is really changing fast at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 21 hours ago, mt9754 said: True, not there yet but things are moving quick. The new batteries this year can now charge to 100% and still last 800,000km before degrading a bit - the technology is really changing fast at the moment. Yes it’s changing very quickly but I don’t think it’s going to save the planet, if say Australia went all ev in next 10 years how would the grid cope charging all these vehicles. It struggles now add in the infrastructure required it’s going to be 20 plus years away. Also add in tax revenue lost on fuel sales this will be added to recharging cost , over all they will be no cheaper to run than ice in long term. A mixture of both is the way forward imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Rallyman said: Yes it’s changing very quickly but I don’t think it’s going to save the planet, if say Australia went all ev in next 10 years how would the grid cope charging all these vehicles. It struggles now add in the infrastructure required it’s going to be 20 plus years away. Also add in tax revenue lost on fuel sales this will be added to recharging cost , over all they will be no cheaper to run than ice in long term. A mixture of both is the way forward imho Fair enough, i’m more positive about EV. There are plans for Australia to produce 8 times more electricity than they need (via solar) and make good money exporting to neighbours so I don’t think lack of electricity will be a problem. Petrol is such an inefficient conversion of power (12%) vs EV (77%). I personally have a wacky idea that solar will be proven to cause global warming as well (due to the black panels absorbing as opposed to reflecting) and we’ll be putting white silica sand over stuff in 15 years lol, but pretty sure we’ll be gold with wind power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Rallyman said: Yes it’s changing very quickly but I don’t think it’s going to save the planet, if say Australia went all ev in next 10 years how would the grid cope charging all these vehicles. It struggles now add in the infrastructure required it’s going to be 20 plus years away. Also add in tax revenue lost on fuel sales this will be added to recharging cost , over all they will be no cheaper to run than ice in long term. A mixture of both is the way forward imho It will certainly improve the air quality in our cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 46 minutes ago, newjez said: It will certainly improve the air quality in our cities. Hence why I said a mixture of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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