Jon the Hat Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 13/07/2021 at 06:38, HappyHeart said: That's why I prefaced my post with Peoples ideas of being off grid vary. The purists wouldn't entertain an internet connection but the realists understand it's essential for most. That's just one aspect. I'm not talking about raising and killing our own meat, just 'some' veggies, eggs etc. The community we are moving to is quite progressive and there is an shire requirement/ expectation that our home is built to solar passive principles and makes use of sustainable energy. Plenty of people live without mains electric and water. We've got to start somewhere. This reliance on convenience and abundance is killing the planet. High spec off grid as a starting point. It doesn't work though does it? If everyone tried to live of grid half the world would have nowhere to live. It is a luxury for the wealthy. We rely completely on intensive farming to sustain us, and also employing the younger generations to farm it for us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandL Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 12/07/2021 at 09:41, Blue Flu said: Not so many alternatives as decades back. Reason cost. I recall when Denmark had an alternative vibe. before 'alternative' became just another money milking machine. Most likely unaffordable to hippy drop outs. But there was a somewhat successful eco run free spirited enterprise in the eighties,(in Denmark) but the name escapes me. I do recall a number of attempts ended in failure with people not pulling together and personal choices getting in the way. i think it was called "LETS" . I did build an Earthbrick Home there in the early 90's ( still standing ) ... not living there anymore , yes the place has a different vibe now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBabe2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 11/07/2021 at 17:43, HappyHeart said: There are lots of differences of opinion about what going 'off-grid' means. Anyone else interested? Yes definitely. Not yet there though. Dream of living off grid in a mudbrick house But nearest I get, is subscribing to Grass Roots https://grassrootsmagazine.com.au/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 12/07/2021 at 12:08, Paul1Perth said: We don't even have solar and unless they start giving it away free we won't be getting it. The more people that go "off grid" the more the electricity companies have to spend on technology to keep the grid reliable, because of the "dirty" electricity being fed in from peoples solar panels. You can buy an awful lot of electricity for the cost of a solar installation and no worries about maintaing your own gear. As we get older we love that we have a very good IGA across the road that has great veggies and everything else we need. Water and gas always reliable and there when you turn it on, with no worries about maintaining our own equipment. For the price and quality of veggies I couldn't be bothered to grow my own. We do the right thing with recycling what we can and try not to use much plastic. Our solar panels will have paid for themselves this year, after three years -so moving forward a good decision to reduce our bills. We don’t have gas and only get small bills in winter now. Will consider a battery when it becomes economic to do so. It does vary from state to state though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) My odd DS has moved back to the bush to escape the Covid. He was fortunate enough to get an inheritance which enabled him to buy a place so now he has 16 acres, 100 year old house with wood stoves, big water tanks, Creek with solar pump, mains power (an inside flush loo!) and he's very happy. The kids are doing distance Ed and he has satellite broadband for that. He's already put in a quarter acre veg plot and bought a dozen hens so he's happy as Larry. The grass was growing - a lot - so he got out the mower but it got filled almost immediately so then he attacked it with a whipper snipper which didn't really cut it. He found a scythe blade in the barn and sharpened it up (he's good at that), designed his own ergonomic handle and can now cut an acre with barely raising a sweat. I think he's bought a new up to date scythe blade now but he's really happy with it. And to think, generations of my ag lab ancestors would have given their eye teeth not to have to do such back breaking work and he, with all the advantages he had had, is enjoying it! He takes the dog out and when he's done a row she sleeps on it. Horses for courses! Personally I couldn't wait to leave. Should also say, he shoots his own meat and had a big freezer full, also had a generator for if the power goes out. He might think of solar if he ever has enough money. Edited January 20, 2022 by Quoll 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Quoll said: My odd DS has moved back to the bush to escape the Covid. He was fortunate enough to get an inheritance which enabled him to buy a place so now he has 16 acres, 100 year old house with wood stoves, big water tanks, Creek with solar pump, mains power (an inside flush loo!) and he's very happy. The kids are doing distance Ed and he has satellite broadband for that. He's already put in a quarter acre veg plot and bought a dozen hens so he's happy as Larry. The grass was growing - a lot - so he got out the mower but it got filled almost immediately so then he attacked it with a whipper snipper which didn't really cut it. He found a scythe blade in the barn and sharpened it up (he's good at that), designed his own ergonomic handle and can now cut an acre with barely raising a sweat. I think he's bought a new up to date scythe blade now but he's really happy with it. And to think, generations of my ag lab ancestors would have given their eye teeth not to have to do such back breaking work and he, with all the advantages he had had, is enjoying it! He takes the dog out and when he's done a row she sleeps on it. Horses for courses! Personally I couldn't wait to leave. Should also say, he shoots his own meat and had a big freezer full, also had a generator for if the power goes out. He might think of solar if he ever has enough money. Your son should get a couple of donkeys and a few sheep to keep the grass down. Sounds like he has found his happy place. Good on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Toots said: Your son should get a couple of donkeys and a few sheep to keep the grass down. Sounds like he has found his happy place. Good on him! He’s not keen on livestock at the moment. His ex has goats and cows but he still likes his freedom to come and go and doesn’t want the tie if he doesn’t have to. I still think he’s daft but he’s happy and so is the dog! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flu Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Living life on own terms or as near as. One can't ask for much more than that. Having something in the kitty though of course grants options. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Quoll said: He’s not keen on livestock at the moment. His ex has goats and cows but he still likes his freedom to come and go and doesn’t want the tie if he doesn’t have to. I still think he’s daft but he’s happy and so is the dog! If he’s happy that’s all that matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Quoll said: My odd DS has moved back to the bush to escape the Covid. He was fortunate enough to get an inheritance which enabled him to buy a place so now he has 16 acres, 100 year old house with wood stoves, big water tanks, Creek with solar pump, mains power (an inside flush loo!) and he's very happy. The kids are doing distance Ed and he has satellite broadband for that. He's already put in a quarter acre veg plot and bought a dozen hens so he's happy as Larry. The grass was growing - a lot - so he got out the mower but it got filled almost immediately so then he attacked it with a whipper snipper which didn't really cut it. He found a scythe blade in the barn and sharpened it up (he's good at that), designed his own ergonomic handle and can now cut an acre with barely raising a sweat. I think he's bought a new up to date scythe blade now but he's really happy with it. And to think, generations of my ag lab ancestors would have given their eye teeth not to have to do such back breaking work and he, with all the advantages he had had, is enjoying it! He takes the dog out and when he's done a row she sleeps on it. Horses for courses! Personally I couldn't wait to leave. Should also say, he shoots his own meat and had a big freezer full, also had a generator for if the power goes out. He might think of solar if he ever has enough money. I still think he’s a legend! Good for him. Sounds amazing to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, rammygirl said: Our solar panels will have paid for themselves this year, after three years -so moving forward a good decision to reduce our bills. We don’t have gas and only get small bills in winter now. Will consider a battery when it becomes economic to do so. It does vary from state to state though. Need to start planning our system. After a 6 month hiatus looks like our build is back on track! Heading down to check it out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyHeart said: I still think he’s a legend! Good for him. Sounds amazing to me The wilds of East Gippsland have a lot of opportunity for that kind of life if that is your bag! Meanwhile, have you got your gun licence so you can go out and pot a few roos? It certainly is a completely different way of thinking and doing that's for sure 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Quoll said: The wilds of East Gippsland have a lot of opportunity for that kind of life if that is your bag! Meanwhile, have you got your gun licence so you can go out and pot a few roos? It certainly is a completely different way of thinking and doing that's for sure I don’t think I’ll be doing any shooting. I’ll pop to the local shop. Our block is not too isolated! Off grid for wimps. Your son is doing the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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