can1983 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 So I'm putting it out there. Saw the discussion around the Ponds in Western Sydney. If this was my only option in Sydney I'd leave Sydney. If this was my only option in Australia I'd leave Australia. Why would people saddle themselves with a 30 year mortgage to live here 45km from the beach? There's less space than what's afforded to livestock. It makes me so sad 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, can1983 said: So I'm putting it out there. Saw the discussion around the Ponds in Western Sydney. If this was my only option in Sydney I'd leave Sydney. If this was my only option in Australia I'd leave Australia. Why would people saddle themselves with a 30 year mortgage to live here 45km from the beach? There's less space than what's afforded to livestock. It makes me so sad That looks very depressing. Hopefully there is a large park nearby to make up for the lack of gardens. Are they social housing? If not I wonder how much each of those dwellings cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Peach said: No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/ You must be joking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Peach said: No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/ There have been 1.4 million views. Surely those dog boxes can't possibly be worth over a million each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Toots said: There have been 1.4 million views. Surely those dog boxes can't possibly be worth over a million each. A million dollars for a house is very cheap by Sydney standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 they're 4 bedroom/3 bathroom 300sqm houses on tiny blocks 45km from the Sydney CBD.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, Marisawright said: A million dollars for a house is very cheap by Sydney standards. I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, Toots said: I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price. Me neither. That's why I moved to Melbourne, rather than move to Sydney's outer burbs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Marisawright said: Me neither. That's why I moved to Melbourne, rather than move to Sydney's outer burbs. Me too, I went to Sydney to start with but hopped to Melbourne as soon as it was possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 hours ago, Toots said: I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price. I couldn’t either. That’s a very depressing photo. Those houses won’t win awards for their kerb appeal that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 12 hours ago, Tulip1 said: I couldn’t either. That’s a very depressing photo. Those houses won’t win awards for their kerb appeal that’s for sure. Actually, if you crouch down and photograph them from the kerb, they probably will look better than they do in that aerial shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 On 25/04/2024 at 16:58, Ken said: Actually, if you crouch down and photograph them from the kerb, they probably will look better than they do in that aerial shot. I drove through here yesterday. It felt a bit weird because it's very flat while the suburbs just to the east are extremely hilly Here is a photo from the Google car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) In Yorhire, a few terraced houses, cars parked. the wrong way and not a arage in sight cheers, Bobj. Edited May 30 by Bobj Punct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Bobj said: In Yorhire, a few terraced houses, cars parked. the wrong way and not a arage in sight cheers, Bobj. My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages. It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 33 minutes ago, Toots said: My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages. It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house. I lived in East Sheen ,not far from Putney, in the 1950’s - 1960’s, there were no garages in my street, but hardly anyone had a car in the 1950’s or 1960’s, we had a perfectly good bus service, to get us around. When I was on early shift for the airline I worked for in the early 1960’s, I would catch the first bus out of the depot at about 05.20. Sometimes the bus driver missed seeing me, or the others who worked with the same airline, at the temporary bus stop just outside the depot. Had to rush up to the main road, where we had to hope someone driving would give us a lift. Luckily there were some regulars passing to work at the markets, who used to look out for us. I’ve never forgotten slipping down an icy road in my airline high heels at the crack of dawn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, ramot said: I lived in East Sheen ,not far from Putney, in the 1950’s - 1960’s, there were no garages in my street, but hardly anyone had a car in the 1950’s or 1960’s, we had a perfectly good bus service, to get us around. When I was on early shift for the airline I worked for in the early 1960’s, I would catch the first bus out of the depot at about 05.20. Sometimes the bus driver missed seeing me, or the others who worked with the same airline, at the temporary bus stop just outside the depot. Had to rush up to the main road, where we had to hope someone driving would give us a lift. Luckily there were some regulars passing to work at the markets, who used to look out for us. I’ve never forgotten slipping down an icy road in my airline high heels at the crack of dawn. Yes, my sister had a bus stop round the corner or the choice of Putney Bridge tube station or East Putney station which is the one she used to get to work. Why bother with a car when there is such good public transport close by. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 21 minutes ago, Toots said: Yes, my sister had a bus stop round the corner or the choice of Putney Bridge tube station or East Putney station which is the one she used to get to work. Why bother with a car when there is such good public transport close by. That was always my argument! Living in Brighton with excellent public transport I just never learnt to drive. Of course then when I went to Oz I was treated as some kind of oddity and had numerous arguments, mainly to do with ID, as people insisted "Of course you have a driving licence. Everyone drives...." Now back in Brighton and very glad I never wasted money on learning!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrets Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) Just had a quick check of where we lived in London too, smaller plots overall. I think ours was approximately 250sqm total plot, semi detached three storey. I reckon it would be a nicer house for those new builds. Edited May 30 by Ferrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 13 hours ago, Ferrets said: Just had a quick check of where we lived in London too, smaller plots overall. I think ours was approximately 250sqm total plot, semi detached three storey. I reckon it would be a nicer house for those new builds. Yeah my uk house was 85m2 on a 250m2 block. It was rubbish, pokey and depressing. Moving to Australia should give you more space my point was that Australia is a massive country with many times (10?) the usable ('non desert') land of the uk and only 1/3 of the population So why should people be squeezed in like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Those are large detached houses by any measure. The fact they have little garden is sad, but reflects people's choices now. Lets not pretend it is some awful life. Most houses in Perth suburbs looks similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 30/05/2024 at 18:02, Toots said: My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages. It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house. Half of England is like that, and now the familes have 3 cars each and get into arguments about parking outside their house as if if they own part of the highway too. Luckily I never faced that problem.....the terraced house was the same but we had double yellows outside so no bugger could park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tea4too Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 4 hours ago, Bob Jones said: Half of England is like that, and now the familes have 3 cars each and get into arguments about parking outside their house as if if they own part of the highway too. Luckily I never faced that problem.....the terraced house was the same but we had double yellows outside so no bugger could park It can sometimes feel that Britain and England in particular is over developed, however that's not borne out by official statistics. Unsurprisingly London had the highest proportion of developed land in 2022 but even then we're only talking 40%, although within that figure some local authority areas were clearly maxed out in terms of regeneration and development. The remaining English regions range between 7% and 10% developed, but again there will be pockets within those areas of intense development. Still, overall it seems that Britain is still pretty rural in land mass terms. T x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 9 hours ago, tea4too said: It can sometimes feel that Britain and England in particular is over developed, however that's not borne out by official statistics. Unsurprisingly London had the highest proportion of developed land in 2022 but even then we're only talking 40%, although within that figure some local authority areas were clearly maxed out in terms of regeneration and development. The remaining English regions range between 7% and 10% developed, but again there will be pockets within those areas of intense development. Still, overall it seems that Britain is still pretty rural in land mass terms. T x Cumbria, Northumberland, County Durham, a lot of Lancashire and Yorkshire, East Anglia and Herefordshire to name but a few of lovely unspoilt large areas of countryside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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